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 03-23-2004, 07:49 Post: 80810
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Don't know what to say but it seems to me that there is very coherent leadership at present in both public and private sectors. That leadership seems to be doing a bang up job of supporting the corporate person and all that entails. I'd forget about much moral and ethical restraint or societal and national loyalties because pursuit of profit is everything.

In economic growth, someone or something always is exploited and has to be. I'd just get used to the idea that it's the turn of the N.A. ordinary person to suffer the exploitation for what ever is being built and for whoever eventually benefits. Workers are just production factors and commodities, so forget about nice nice. Most of us will be bled, betrayed and bamboozled as fodder for whatever the future holds.

We may not have much choice about bled and betrayed but we can choose bamboozled or not and we can learn to survive the rage that the exploited always suffer. We can learn who are friends are and maybe government can again instill a measure of restraint on corporate excesses. Maybe the future will prove worth it but good questions might be 'What is being built, who benefits and who are our friends?

Societies have tolerated excesses to carve modern industrial societies from wildernesses and they also have built depraved empires and medieval aristocracies. For myself I don't feel like suffering much exploitation to build several of those futures. Why is it that when politicians are so widely believe to be corrupt and act in their own interests do we expect that they'll take care of ours? Why when CEO's are widely believed to be greedy crooks do we expect fairness. Why is it that the economy will collapse unless CEO's make an average of 110 times that of their workers but we import luxury cars from strong economies where the ratio is more like 15 times. As I said we have a choice of bamboozled or not.






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 04-07-2004, 07:55 Post: 82374
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One theory of the industrial revolution is that Spain (which was the western empire of the time) discovered the new world and gold along with it. The Spanish found it convenient to exchange gold for English manufactured goods. The English has a convenient supply of low-cost labour (former surfs who lost feudal rights to land through the 'enclosures'). The English also were forced to 'discover coal' since they cut down all their forests making charcoal to manufacturer armour for all those wars.

The industrial revolution and eventual empire happened in England and Spain was unable to defend its New World supply lines. A bunch of undeserving prospered and a bunch of undeserving died. Both empires eventually went to well-deserved ends. Perhaps the economy in Spain and society in Britain still bear the scars. Sound like anything happening today?






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